The prince appear for less than a whole minute, says a couple of pretty obvious statements and I'm supposed to believe he's meant to rule? My thoughts exactly, the ending felt disconnected from the rest of the plot. Finally they live happily ever after. The drama took some risks like killing off the king halfway, according to the actor who played haksan it was something they had in mind since the beginning. . anyway. Jin-goo has indeed been phenomenal. Both Moo-young and Eunuch Jo advise Ha Sun to have him come to the capital to protect him, but Ha Sun says that people will be killed if Aisin Gurun attacks. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. His death scene was really great. Because, when making a sad ending, you have to make it believable enough so that the viewer does not feel like theyre being unnecessarily hurt. JUMONG was simply momentous, with KINGDOM OF THE WINDS a worthy successor. The King comes back later, as a cameo and as an excuse for conflict but we will kill him off because he's really not important to the Clown's story now; he's in the way. Episode 9, titled Couple 31, follows the consequences of the interview, as Charles and Diana finally give in to divorce. And even I would be interested, and was interested, in seeing what this story looks like. I suspect that having to contend with another court full of braying ministers was a bit too daunting. Aside from Queen Elizabeth II (Olivia Colman), season 4 follows: Princess Margaret (Helena Bonham Carter), the Queen's younger sister. And youre probably going to reply to this with something along the lines of saying even THIS comment is also entirely subjective, thus ironically, proving my point. 3/4 All I ever wanted for Ha Sun and So-woon was for them to live a normal life like normal people, and they got exactly what they deserved each other. And I'm not alone, for Beans of Wisdom threads can prove you that. That scenario would have created a lot of edge, suspense and sadness without killing a character for clout. So-woon asks what took him so long, and he says that he dreamed for so long that when he woke, a lot of time had passed. I especially enjoyed his sound effects of Yi Heon on a bender. Again, why? And do not had any problem wit it. I am now pushing on with JEONG DO JEON (35 of 50 episodes completed.) Nevertheless, it takes me a while to get my thoughts in order, so I don't comment in a timely fashion. The writers could have done better making recovery time shorter, say 3-6 months. Y U GOTTA KILL OFFICER JANG?! They look at each other lovingly for a long time, then Ha Sun takes So-woons hand, and they walk home together. The Crowned Clown (Episode 16, Finale) Drama: The Crowned Clown (English title) / Man Who Become King (Literal) Orignal name: / Wangyi Doen Namja Director: Kim Hee-Won Writer: Kim Sun-Deok, Shin Ha-Eun Network: tvN Episodes: 16 Release Date: January 7 -- March 4, 2019 Didnt want it to end. I must have been bonkers. Jang Gwang. It was a treat to see Jang Gwang reprise his film role as the King's eunuch. So after the preliminary introductions, they used Yi Heon as a plot device, to get the Clown into the Kings position and then they abandoned the King. Why was killing off all the bad guys done so poorly and quickly? 2/4 It was a peculiar incident. 3.1/4 They just wanted to show the Clown as King. version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 Writer: Shin Ha Eun (The Crowned Clown) Cast: Shin Min Ah as Yoon Hye Jin, Kim Seon Ho as Hong Du Shik, Lee Sang Yi as Ji Sung Hyun Streaming Source: Netflix Plot Synopsis: A big-city dentist opens up a practice in a close-knit seaside village, home to a charming jack-of-all-trades who is her polar opposite in every way. Gimme a break! But because he did such a good job, I almost wished he would stay (however in the movie I wanted him to stay more than anything). Why did he leave the palace without guards? I don't hate it, just think that the ending could have been better executed. I am mad they reduced the King, Yi Heon, to nothing, when he was in my opinion the most interesting, and the most important character. Starring: Yeo Jin-goo, Lee Se-young, Kim Sang-kyung Creators: Kim Hee-won, Kim Seon-deok, Shin Ha-eun Watch all you want. A. I agree regarding Moo Youngs death. But from what I gather, they didn't. If they had planned to make Ha-Sun abdicate the at the very least I wish they could've introduced his successor before so it didn't feel like he came outta nowhere. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. Could it be that Lee Kyoung-young's recent turn as the Big Bad in supernatural thriller ROOM NO. He believes that nobody should sit on the throne who wants to use it for personal gain, and that he wants to step down because he wants to go back to being one of the people. What was the point? I too loved MLSHR, BUT I enjoyed it WHILE knowing and recognising its flaws. The point I was trying to make in this essay, is that I think The Crowned Clown has objectively bad writing flaws- namely Yi Heon is an example of bad character writing, whether he dies or not (@leetennant) You will receive a link to create a new password via email. The queen dowager screams at the ministers to challenge Ha Sun, but they all stand silently in support of their king. In JDJ we are now with the last King of Goryeo, Gongyang. Please enlighten us. 4. It's simply epic! ;-). I was surprise when Ha Sun decide to abdicated but again it just makes the ending more beautiful. He didn't even try to run. The only reason I watched the drama version was because of the movie. Meanwhile Ha Sun is torn after receiving an urgent letter regarding troops on the Frontier. Two years pass by and we see So Woon a broken shell of the woman she once was. I think it should have ended as Ha Sun walked out of the palace. Hmm. But, instead of Ha Seon finding his sister and the ahjae and living happily ever after with them and So Woon, which I thought would be logical progression Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, So I dropped it. That is the amount of respect or rather fear a king was able to inflict upon others in those days. Because it seeemed that he was a good Crown Prince until his dad died and made this stupid discour before. Queen Dowager walks into a trap of her own and we understand the extent of Ha Suns game-playing as he truly understands how to navigate the vipers pit. Then, both Jang and the King could have remained somewhere and tended to their wounds. The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. I am mad, salty, disappointed, call it what you will, at the mistreatment of the King as a written and constructed character. Likewho took care of him? 7-8 of HAECHI before today, but no such luck. O/T but can I suggest that you maybe jump over to HAECHI and give it a try? Without him, we wouldn't have a clown to be crowned. In fact it reached 2 digit ratings even afterwards. He stands before Minister Lees casket one last time, remembering his friend saying that he taught him about the importance of trust and bowing to him as his king. So what if youre a prince. With a satisfying conclusion and impressive cinematography throughout, this Korean drama makes for quite the impressive showing. But im note sure what was recorded of the kings in those days, like to what extent (like records on poop lol that was hilarious ). He was awesome!! And then they walk off into the sunset andwhat? I was interested in Moon Lovers, but when I read only bad comments, I searched for synopsis and ending and actually it had so much so much potential that it's a pity it went that way. I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. Jong-rim and Jae-gu, who got to take the civil service exam because of Minister Lee, offer to help Ho-geol get revenge, but Ho-geol says theyll only lose their lives. Lord Giseong is crowned king, and Ha Sun dresses in common clothing as he packs to leave the palace. version : 'v2.2' // use version 2.2 He does as So-woon asks and sends her from the palace to wait for him while he ties up some loose ends, and they arrange to meet in the village soon. ;-), "From the masterful acting, to the cinematography, to the heart-pounding soundtrack, ..", I can't agree more than this. I've seen a lot of fictional sageuks but they all stuck with their time period. There was so much dormant potential with this turn of events, yet this treasonous act wasn't delved into further which is a shame. What if she had killed herself in that field and seeing him was an illusion? But he's not finished surprising us yet, as he contemplates a decision that could change the future of the entire nation. If it was any other drama it would gain only a few comments which would decrease over time, but MLSHR had 2000 comments within few hours even during the last episodes!! Minister Lee didn't see himself as a hero but more like a tool for his country not good or bad but useful. The final scene in the grassland was beautiful. Because I think writing can be objectively bad, and no matter how many times I try and prove this, back it up with philosophical and canon evidence, you, and half this comment section, are always going to think something being bad is relative and subjective; only opinion and perspective. They knew from the beginning that Ha Sun will have to step down. I read the rest afterwards but i still have to say the same. He deposed the queen and abdicated, then suddenly passed away. Its just as J Star said: Unanswered questions. He reminds us that to be a man is to make mistakes, to laugh and fool around. I honestly also would prefer this ending, as this is more fitting of the whole narrative. But I'm still not sure how the Queen managed to stop feeling guilty over her initially inadvertent betrayal of Yi Heon. The palace is thrown into turmoil and at the center of this chaos is our clown King, Ha Sun. And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. It is an 8/10 for me. Its not even just that, its poorly constructed as a concept, let alone a written piece. For one example: Moo Young. :). And with the way Hasun suddenly reappeared and the Queen didn't even ask him where he was, only asked what took him so long?? Even MLSHR didn't do that, although MLSHR overall was crappier than KL. And he shouldve been. SO many eye rolling inconsistencies with the time period it took me right out of the whole story but I enjoyed half it at least thanks to the actors. (Cant remember if I read all of your wall before you broke DB, but still *nods*. Also, I completely agree that the acting, cinematography, and soundtrack were superb. It was a suitably heroic end for a loyal bodyguard. No kiss for the finale? This is a Absurd. No no. I am waiting for several upcoming dramas. Prince Jin-pyung is in bad shape from his gut wound, but he tries to act like its nothing when the queen dowager visits him. I have seen a lot if historical dramas because i generally like historical/costume dramas and this is certainly a drama that i really enjoyed. It made me think that the PD doesn't have enough control over one of the most important departments of a Sageuk, which is Wardrobe and aesthetics department. Excellent performance by Kim Sang-kyung. Finally its time for Ha Sun to go. This kind of doppelganger plot makes more sense in the movie. Under entirely different circumstances, namely had I liked this show for more than just the first 8 episodes, this final write up would mostly consist of how utterly ridiculous and pointless that fake out death and time jump was; it is stupid for even the flawed story they ended up telling. We just want better developed characters with a clearer plot and an ending that is believable. It would be boring if we knew what happens on the whole drama in a preview. Like everyone else I feel the end was rushed and not thought out. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . But he tells her that hes been following the kings orders, and for his loyalty, Ha Sun forgives his crimes. Heh. In the end, she didn't even feel part of the family; she wasn't welcome. Unfortunately, the drama version ending didn't give us much closure and added more questions that needed to be answer. As for the cast, so many lovely talents and wonderful performances (my favorites being Jang Gwang, Jang Young-nam, and Kim Sang-kyung because I'm biased). var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0]; I was lucky, it was so beautiful about music, acting, costumes, and I appreciated that there was balance between politics and romance. What was the point? My take on the ending was that he was nursed back to health though we dont know how and who took care of him. 2. :-) Though nervous he won't be able to pull off the subterfuge, the decoy leads successfully, and falls in love with the queen in the process. That is what they wanted to tell. Still beautiful though. He hands her a letter from Ha Sun, which says that if she promises not to punish his people, he will confess his crimes and hand over the royal seal. Even if they didn't want a predictable ending of "yayy happily ever after", they could have done it like this: Officer Jang and the King are attacked and badly injured. Thanks @kiara and @pakalanapikake for all your comments during the run of THE CROWNED CLOWN. Gotta say though, I did enjoy the political aspect of this series even if it was neglected in the last couple of episodes. tvN's hit drama " The Crowned Clown " has ended with a bang! I was perfectly okay with the ending. Minister Shin orders his men after him, but the instant Ha Sun is through the gate it slams shut, cutting him off from his soldiers. Ha Sun tells Minister Shin, I will take your life and make you pay for stealing my letter, putting the border at risk, and endangering the capital for your personal gain.. We got to see one measly flashback of Yi Heon and the Queen early in their marriage before he started going off the deep end. So what happens, when you kill him, and, moral implications aside, there are no consequences to this, is that your plot doesnt frakking make sense. I just discovered in Merriam-Webster that the oft used kdrama translated word punk is a synonym for beginner!) The Clown manages to fluke his way out of the accusations (without anyone on his side dying), and then the Villains lead a rebellion that is entirely unsuccessful and was executed without intelligence so that the Good Guys (lol) can win very easily and eliminate all threats, in the space of about 20 minutes, as if the last fifteen episodes of well, drama, mean absolutely nothing. Not fond of separation endings. Haksan had to die for his sins. He had no backstory. Even once a few people found out about Ha Seons identity, they for the most part just went on treating him like he was the real king all along, like Yi Heon didnt exist. It did its intended purpose. I'm relieved to know that you, too, find HAECHI a mental bandwidth hog. I am glad you enjoyed TCC. There was a king and one of the his guards at the door looked very much like him, an uncanny resemblance. The entire thing? The queen dowager snarls that he promised to confess, realizing that this is a trap. In Episode 8 of "The Crown", we followed the controversial Martin Bashir interview with Diana and how that shook the monarchy. Im glad it was 16 episodes. KINGDOM, alas, also got short shrift from me because it was too much to juggle with CROWNED CLOWN. }); There almost were- with the Queen almost committing suicide out of guilt, Shin almost exposing the Clown as a fake, and Ha Seon finding out Haksan killed the king. You're making good progress with JEONG DO JEON. I'm not even thinking that this drama is even close to reality lol. She cracks it and makes a wish, but when she opens her eyes, shes still alone. I personally think they could have used the King's death and still told an interesting and important story. A pathetic attempt at last minute drama for characters I no longer care about and a plot that I think is fundamentally flawed only solidifies my opinion that this drama is written stupidly, and badly. It turns out to be a trap though that he walks right into. I mentioned earlier that it would have given Yeo Jin-goo the possibility to play triple roles; and At a couple of points in the past two years, I was simultaneously live-watching 9-10 dramas along with older shows and films. All this leads me to wonder now if the ending is much darker than it seems on the surface? It's not that King Loves is terrible, but if you put MLDBC, MLSHR and KL on a scale, KL veers more towards the extreme that is occupied by MLSHR, instead of the MLDBC extreme. And I loved the drums. She turns and theres Ha Sun, alive. If you want to tell a story about a Clown being King, do NOT make that ENTIRE premise hinge on a single character and then treat him as a plot device! js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id; i liked the drama and that also doesn't mean everyone else should like it too. I'll definitely read it. Thank you for recapping CROWNED CLOWN, @lollypip, especially as it is not the only drama on your plate. So it was @sicarius who broke it. that is not a given that's how it's scripted for sure. But Ha Sun stabs him in the belly, declaring that the price for killing Minister Lee is his death. The ending. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. Stretching it A LOT, but okay. The end was quite disapointing, I mean the jump in the future was useless. He doesnt have long to ponder it though as Sin Chi Soo makes his move and, along with a handful of rebels, storms the palace in a bid to take him out of the loop once and for all. And it becomes very boring to watch. She orders Ha Sun to confess to colluding with Aisin Gurun and disrespecting Ming, their ally. Eunuch Jo brings Ha Sun a scroll, and he reads the hanja himself as he announces that for the queen dowagers crimes of harming the queen, ordering Lord Yoos assassination, and leading the rebel forces, she is officially deposed and ordered to drink poison. Hope his next drama also does well. Early on there were comments about the disclaimer at the beginning of each episode of TCC. Unanswered questions. It's a pity at that time I wasn't on DB, it sounds a so fun experience! Instead of the time jump etc. Thanks for noting that Yoon Park portrayed Ha Sun's successor, Lord Giseong. Did he not know that one was a royal twin (considered bad luck?) All seems well and as Officer Jang vows to stand by Ha Suns side no matter what, assassins appear to avenge Queen Dowager resulting in both Officer Jang and Ha Sun suffering a terrible fate. Inconsistencies are there but being able to create a good show that MOST people clearly enjoyed was thanks to the people behind it. 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