into anothers green skin, , the galley in the mail from Milkweed. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and more towards stretching into this world ahead with dignity . If you think about it, its not a good, song. with a new hosta under the main feeder. The one that always misses where Im not, And it is definitely wine country and all of the things that go along with that. Once it has been witnessed, and buried, I go about my day, which isnt, ordinary, exactly, because nothing is ordinary, now even when it is ordinary. She is a former host of the poetry podcast, The Slowdown, and she teaches in the MFA program at Queens University of Charlotte, in North Carolina. I think there are things we all learned also. Its so interesting because I feel like one of the things as you age, as an artist, as a human being, you start to rethink the stories that people have told you and start to wonder what was useful and what was not useful. Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. red helmet, I rode I think there were these moments that that quietness, that aloneness, that solitude, that as hard as they were, I think hopefully weve learned some lessons from that. And I think there was this moment where I was like, Oh, Im just sort of living to see what happens next. And the grief is also giving me a reason to get up. Renamed On Being with Krista Tippett, the show was broadcast on more than 400 stations nationwide and, as a podcast, was regularly downloaded millions of times a month. I feel like our breath is so important to how we move through the world, how we react to things. And I know that when I discovered it for myself as a teenager that I thought, Oh, this is more like music where its like something is expressing itself to you and you are expressing yourself to it. Or theres just something happens and you get all of a sudden for it to come flooding back. Oh, thank you. Our lovely theme music is provided and composed by Zo Keating. Krista Tippett; Filtrer Krista Tippett Voir les critres de classement. And its funny to tell people that youre raised an atheist because theyre like, Really? But I was. These full-body experiences of isolation and ungrieved losses and loneliness and fear and uncertainty. We touch each other. We understand questions as technologies and virtues as social arts. With. It suddenly just falls apart, and I feel like there are moments that I travel a lot in South America, with my husband, and by the end of the second week, my brain has gone. You ever think you could cry so hard Ada Limn is the 24th Poet Laureate of the United States. So I want to do two more, also from The Carrying. Before the road Only my head is for you. And if I had to condense you as a poet into a couple of words, I actually think youre about and these are words you use also wholeness and balance. the pummeling of youth. I will trust the world and I will feel at peace. And this time, what came to me as I stood and looked at the trees was that Oh, it isnt just me looking. And so, its so hard to speak of, to honor, to mark in this culture. wind? thats sung in silence when its too hard to go on, Easy light storms in through the window, soft, edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels, nest rigged high in the maple. Creativity. Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. tags: curiosity , listening , oral-history , vulnerability. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. I get four parents that come to the school nights. And I felt like I was not brave enough to own that for myself. An electric conversation with Ada Limns wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. But I love it. I am too used to nostalgia now, a sweet escape, of age. Limn: Yeah. And Im sure it does for many of you, where you start to think about a phrase or a word comes to you and youre like, Is that a word? Youre like, With. Adventures into what can replenish and orient us in this wild ride of a time to be alive: biomimicry and the science of awe; spiritual contrarianism and social creativity; pause and poetry and . the nectar lovers, and we Limn: Yeah. All year, in an oblivion-is-coming sort of way. We believe healthy spiritual inquiry propels us outside the boundaries of the self, into the world. Talk about any of the limits of language, the failure of language. And so I have. We practice moral imagination; we embrace paradoxical curiosity; we sit with conflict and complexity; we create openings instead of seeking answers or providing reductive simplicity. At human pace, they are enlivening the world that they can see and touch. These are heavier, page 86 and page 87. And that is so much more present with us all the time. And I always thought it was just because I had to work. But in reality its home to so many different kind of wildlife. to lean in the spotlight of streetlight with you, toward Yeah, I was convinced. Before the dogs chain. but witnessed. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. I spoke with Ada Limn at the Ted Mann Concert Hall in Minneapolis. 4.07 avg rating 5,187 ratings published 2016 20 editions. So its a very special place. But each of us has callings, not merely to be professionals, but to be friends, neighbors, colleagues, family, citizens, lovers of the world. If you would like to hear an uplifting message at a time of global difficulty, come hear Krista Tippett speak at Central Congregational Church in Providence RI at 6:30 pm, Saturday, December 3. And it often falls apart from me. Yeah. And I want you to read it. All right. I cannot reverse it, the record A few years ago, Krista hosted an event in Detroit a city in flux on the theme of raising children. Tippett: Look at all these people. And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. One of the most fascinating developments of our time is that human qualities we have understood in terms of virtue experiences weve called spiritual are now being taken seriously by science as intelligence as elements of human wholeness. So well just be on an adventure together. I dont know why this, but this. And I remember reading it was Elizabeth Bishops One Art, and its a villanelle, so its got a very strict rhyme scheme. This is not a problem. [laughter]. whats larger within us, toward how we were born. I trust those moments where it feels like, Oh, right, this is a weird. Language is strange, and its evolving. lover, come back to the five-and-dime. We understand love as the most reliably transformative muscle of human wholeness, and we investigate the workings of love as public practice. So its a very special place. I feel like theres so many elements to that discovery. Thats the work of poetry in general, right? What was it? rolling their trash bins out, after all of this is over? And I think about that all the time. podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. Tippett: The thesis. Yeah, I had a moment where I hadnt realized how delighted I was to go about my world without my body. And poetry doesnt really allow you to do that because its working in the smallest units of sound and syllable and clause and line break and then the sentence. Tippett has interviewed guests ranging from poets to physicists, doctors to historians, artists to activists. I write. us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt, and what I do not say is: I trust the world to come back. no hot gates, no house decayed. I think this poem, for me, is very much about learning to find a home and a sense of belonging in a world where being at peace is actually frowned upon. And I was feeling very isolated. Every week, the show hosts thoughtful . us, still right now, a softness like a worn fabric of a nightshirt. Her volume The Carrying won the National Book Critics Circle Award for Poetry, and her book Bright Dead Things was a finalist for the National Book Award. Tippett: So I feel like the last one Id like for you to read for us is A New National Anthem, which you read at your inauguration as Poet Laureate. Dedicated to reconnecting ecology, culture, and spirituality. And I knew that at 15. Tippett: I feel like it brings us back to wholeness somehow. Tippett: Yeah, it was completely unnatural. Dont get me wrong, I do, like the flag, how it undulates in the wind. I mean, I do right now. Do you remember the Colbert Report when Stephen Colbert was doing the earlier show, and he had this one skit where he said, I love breathing, I could do it all day long. [laughter] And I always think about that because of course, its so ironic that we have to think about our breath. Theres this poem which Ive never heard anybody ask you to read called Where the Circles Overlap, . But let me say, I was taken, back and forth on Sundays and it was not easy, but I was loved each place. Limn: Exactly. Dacher Keltner and his Greater Good Science Center at Berkeley have been pivotal in this emergence. Yeah. I just saw her. But we dont need to belabor that. In fact, Krista interviewed the wise and wonderful . And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. And then there are times in a life, and in the life of the world, where only a poem perhaps in the form of the lyrics of a song, or a half sentence we ourselves write down can touch the mystery of ourselves, and the mystery of others. It has ever and always been true, David Whyte reminds us, that so much of human experience is a conversation between loss and celebration. Weve come this far, survived this much. If you are here, you are likely already part of this. Yeah. but I was loved each place. We havent read much from The Carrying, which is a wonderful book. its like staring into an original no one has been writing the year lately. And then to do it on top of really global grief, that is a very kind of different work because then you think, Well, who am I to look at this flower? And honestly, this feels to me like if I were teaching a college class, I would have somebody read this poem and say, Discuss.. is so bright and determined like a flame, I think grief is something that is very We have so much to grieve even as we have so much to walk towards. I mean, thats how we read. And I am so thrilled to have this conversation with Ada Limn to be part of our first season. Yeah. you can keep it until its needed, until you can Transcription by Alletta Cooper Krista Tippett: I really believe that poetry is something we humans need almost as much as we need water and air. and desperate, enough of the brutal and the border, enough of can you see me, can you hear me, enough. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright, And that between space was the only space that really made sense to me. (Unedited) The Dalai Lama, Jonathan Sacks, Katharine Jefferts Schori, and Seyyed Hossein Nasr with Krista Tippett. We speak the language of questions. Why that color? This is like a self-care poem. So it had this kind of wonderful way of existing in an aliveness of a language, aliveness of a second language as opposed to just sort of a need to get something or to use. Tippett: Just back to this idea that there is this organic automatically breathing thing of which were part, and that we even have to rediscover that. And place is always place. No, question marks. is an independent nonprofit production of The On Being Project. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. [laughter] I was so fascinated when I read the earlier poem. I want to say first of all, how happy I am to be doing something with Milkweed, which I have known since I moved to Minnesota, I dont know, over a quarter century ago, to be this magnificent but quiet, local publisher. And the next one is Dead Stars. Which follows a little bit in terms of how do we live in this time of catastrophe that also calls us to rise and to learn and to evolve. And we think, Well, what are we supposed to do with that silence? And we read naturally for meaning. But then I just examine all the different ways of being quiet. Tippett: And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. . I think coming back to this idea that poetry is as embodied as it is linguistic. and isnt that enough? Limn: Yeah. Harley at seven years old. This is a moving and edifying conversation that is also, not surprisingly, a lot of fun. Yeah. In this spirit, our ecosystem of offerings launching across 2023 serve a far-flung global web of listeners/practitioners. When you find a song or you find something and you think, This. And were you writing The Hurting Kind during the pandemic and lockdown? And there are times where I think people have said as a child, Oh, you come from a broken home. And I remember thinking, Its not broken, its just bigger. So that even when youre talking about the natural world: we are of it not in it. are your bones, and your bones are my bones. I mean, even that question you asked, What am I supposed to do with all that silence? Thats one way to talk about the challenge of being human and walking through a life. Because I couldnt decide which ones I wanted you to read. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Yeah. Yes. A friend, lover, come back to the five-and-dime. Tippett: And that is so much more present with us all the time. And also that phrase, as Ive aged. You say that a lot and I would like to tell you that you have a lot more aging to do. , which was a couple of years before that, certainly pre-pandemic, in the before times, was the way you wrote, a way that you spoke of the same story of yourself. Peabody Award-winning host Krista Tippett presents a live, in-person recording of the wildly popular On Being podcast, featuring guest speaker Isabel Wilkerson. An accomplished journalist, author, and entrepreneur, she was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2014. And I think it was that. The Pause is our Saturday morning ritual of a newsletter. Once, I sang it at homecoming and threw Bottlebrush trees attract In fact, my mother is and was an atheist. That its not my neighborhood, and they look beautiful. When I lived in New York City, my two best friends, I would always try to get them to go to yoga with me. Is it okay? The danger of all poets and I think artists in general, is it some moment we think we dont deserve to do this work because what does it do? Sometimes youre, and so much of its. She loves human beings. Its a source of a spiritual thoughtfulness that runs through this conversation with Krista. Tippett: Were back at the natural world of metaphors and belonging. A season of big, new, beautiful On Being conversations is here. And Im not sure Ive had a conversation across all these years that was a more unexpected and exuberant mix of gravity and laughter laughter of delight, and of blessed relief. And I wonder if you think about your teenage self, who fell in love with poetry. Musings and tools to take into your week. What is the thesis word or the wind? We think time is always time. All right. And this particular poem was written after the 2017 fires in my home valley of Sonoma. Where being at ease is not okay. and I never knew survival Science and the Human Spirit. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. Limn: And to feel that moment of everyone recognizing what it is to kind of look out for one another and have to do that in the antithesis of who we are, which was to separate. people could point to us with the arrows they make in their minds. the ground and the feast is where I live now. . And coming in future weeks, is a conversation with a technologist and artist named James Bridle, whose point is that language itself, the sounds we made and the words we finally formed, and the imagery and the metaphors were all primally, organically rooted in the natural world of which we were part. And when people describe you as a poet, theyll talk about things about intimacy and emotional sincerity and your observations of the natural world. In me, a need to nestle deep into the safekeeping of sky. Yeah. what a word, what a world, this gray waiting. And if you cant have hope, I think we need a little awe, or a little wonder, or at least a little curiosity. Page 40. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or, reading skills. And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. Tippett: Yeah. And if its weekly, theres a day of the week and you do it. And the last voice that you hear singing at the end of our show is Cameron Kinghorn. And the one Id love you to read is Not the Saddest Thing in the World. This is the one where I felt like theres subtlety to it, but you just named so much in there. I feel like that between space, that liminal space, is a place where we were living for so long, and many of us still living in that between space of, How do I go into the world safely, and how do I move through the world with safety and care-take myself and care-take others. cigarette smoke or expertise in recipes or But the song didnt mean anything, just a call We were so focused on survival and illness and vaccines and bad news. Limn: Yeah. the truth is every song of this country Shes written, Science polishes the gift of seeing, Indigenous traditions work with gifts of listening and language. An expert in moss a bryologist she describes mosses as the coral reefs of the forest. Robin Wall Kimmerer opens a sense of wonder and humility for the intelligence in all kinds of life we are used to naming and imagining as inanimate. Sometimes youre, and so much of its. The thesis is still the wind. The thesis is still a river. The thesis has never been exile., Limn: Yeah. One of the most popular episodes in the history of "On Being," the 15-year-old public-radio program hosted by the honey-voiced Krista Tippett, is a conversation Tippett had more than ten years ago with the late Irish poet and philosopher John O'Donohue on the subject of the inner landscape of beauty. [audience laughs] But instead to really have this moment of, Oh, no, its our work together to see one another. Tippett: [laughs] Yeah. And I think its in that category. The thesis has never been exile. Tippett: Something I remember reading is that you grew up in an English-speaking household, but your paternal grandfather spoke Spanish and that you just loved to listen to him. When you open the page, theres already silence. We are in the final weeks as On Being evolves to its next chapter in a world that is evolving, each of us changed in myriad ways weve only begun to process and fathom. But I think the biggest thing for me is to begin with silence. Limn: Yeah. So it felt right to listen again to one of our most beloved shows of this post-2020 world. This is like a self-care poem. So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. Tippett: And poetry is absolutely this is not something I knew would happen when I started this but poetry now is at the heart of On Being, its woven through everything. capture, capture, capture. So you grew up in Sonoma, California, but my sense is that its not the land of Zinfandel and Pinot Noir that immediately comes to mind now when someone says Sonoma. Want to Read. And I found it really useful, a really useful tool to go back in and start to think about what was just no longer true, or maybe had never been true. Yeah, because its made with words, but its also sensory and its bodily. In 2014, Tippett was awarded the National Humanities Medal by U.S. President Barack Obama . So Sundays were a different kind of practice, if you will, a different kind of observation. And it sounds like thunder? And the Sonoma Coast is a really special place in terms of how its been preserved and protected throughout the years. Amidst all of the perspectives and arguments around our ecological future, this much is true: we are not in the natural world we are part of it. (Always, always there is war and bombs.) edges of the world, smudged by mist, a squirrels. He works with wood, and he works with other people who work with their hands making beautiful, useful things. And so I have My grandmother is 98. So Im hoping. I was actually born at home. Because I was teaching on Zoom, and I was just a face, and I found myself being very comfortable with just being a face, and with just being a head. How are you?. My body is for me. [audience laughter] And it really struck me that how much I was like, How do I move through this world? Remembering what it is to be a body, I think to be a woman who moves through the world with a body, who gets commented on the body. Yeah. Between squeal with the idea of blissful release, oh lover. This idea of original belonging, that we are home, that we have enough, that we are enough. Tippett: Something that you reflect on a lot that I would love to just draw you out on a bit is I think people who love language the most, and work with language, also are most intensely aware of the limits of language, and thats partly why youre working so hard. There is so much actionable knowledge in the tour of the ecosystem of our bodies that Kimberley Wilson takes us on this hour. s wisdom and her poetry a refreshing, full-body experience of how this way with words and sound and silence teaches us about being human at all times, but especially now. as you said, to give instruction or answers, where to give answers would be to disrespect the gravity of the questions. Theres daytime silent when I stare, and nighttime silent when I do things. Replenishment and invigoration in your inbox. And then I would say in terms of the sacred, it was always the natural world. unpoisoned, the song thats our birthright. Listen Download Transcript. Singing is able to touch and join human beings in ways few other arts can. Now, somethings, breaking always on the skyline, falling over Tippett: You hosted this, The Slowdown podcast, this great poetry podcast for a while and. But you said I dont know, I just happened to be I saw you again today. And also, I read somewhere that Sundays were a day that you were moving back and forth between your two homes, your parents divorced and everybody remarried. And I knew that at 15. maybe dove, maybe dunno to be honest, too embryonic, too see-through and wee. This is science that invites us to nourish the brains we need, young and old, to live in this world. On Being with Krista Tippett is about focusing on the immensity of our lives. Look, we are not unspectacular things. And that feels like its an active thing as opposed to a finished thing, a closed thing. Why not that weed? Our entire world is spent that way. Tippett: So can we just engage in this intellectual exercise with you because its completely fascinating and Im not sure whats going on, and Id like you to tell me. This hour, Krista draws out her creative and pragmatic inquiry: Could we let ourselves be led by what we already know how to do, and by what we have it in us to save? 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