Read about our approach to external linking. We had just finished PT before going to supper, so I was in shorts. Crowds of boys from HMS Ganges would visit Ipswich when they were given a day off from the harsh naval discipline at Shotley. But this was Ganges, we never got away with anything. Below are just some of our members who have served at HMS Ganges. You are using an out of date browser. Editors' Code of Practice. Did my intro to Pusser at HMS Raleigh in ' 52 . Other things we had to do included, clean a toilet with a toothbrush, polish a hundred square feet of block-wood flooring with a boot brush every night before going to bed, paint the inside of a dustbin white before putting your rubbish into it. From the annexe, I had sometimes seen it, partly hidden by snowy skies as it towered above the buildings, and it looked frightening then, but now, marching beneath its cobweb rigging, it looked truly awesome. Boys normally signed up to a contract of 12 years, which would leave most of them aged in their late 20s after their tours. Observer career path/ real life experience. HMS GANGES MUSEUM. The mast has been a local landmark since it was. From it came bloodcurdling cries of command, so frightening that I most surely would have obeyed them myself, if had I understood what they meant. View of the iconic mast at the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. Jon Sparks. On the remainder of the command 'Bayonets' the left hand pulled the bayonet from the scabbard, placed it on the barrel of the rifle and, with a quick twist of the wrist, secured it in place. This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Im here as my Son (15) wants to join the RN - Wellbeck route AIB soon. "I remember another of the Ganges boys, they were talking to a visitor at the museum, and she said 'it was quite brutal, wasn't it? A planning application for the site was submitted and outline permission was granted in 2015. Click here to remove banner ads from this forum. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. One not only suffered the punishment such as doubling up and down the steps of laundry hill with a 303 rifle held high. The site was closed in 1976 and was used as a maaried quarter estate by the RAF. They faced what was without doubt the most severe punishment, cuts. It was at Shotley Point that the wooden ship HMS Ganges was berthed from 1899, and used as a cadet training ship for the Royal Navy. they said. A historic Grade II listed former Royal Navy training mast has been taken down ahead of restoration work. The former treasurer of a naval veterans' organisation has been jailed for 18 months after nearly 80,000 was withdrawn from its accounts. Read about our approach to external linking. However, in the meantime we were still at the mercy of our instructors. 1905 to 1976 saw 150,000 recruits pass through HMS Ganges. Royal Navy 238217 Boy 2nd Class HMS Ganges II. Allegations of Abuse. He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit . CEM1 Served from 1972 - 1978 Served in HMS Ganges. They say you never forget the place and I agree. Photos showing the rusting mast at the former site of HMS Ganges at Shotley peninsula have been released on social media, prompting concerns that the 142ft high structure is not being properly. We caught up with Jim Dines, Director of TS Rigging, whose team. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT. Through the year the training was intense, probably a good thing, it gave us little time to regret joining the navy. Discussions between developers and Babergh District Council planning officers have been concluded five years after plans for the huge project were given outline planning permission in December 2015. contact the editor here. He had the misfortune to be placed under the care of two particularly brutal and drunken instructors whose continual bullying and abuse proved too much for this emerging free spirit, . She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. There was one hell to come, the Ganges mast! CMEM (M) Served from 1972 - 1987 Served in HMS Ganges. This site is part of Newsquest's audited local newspaper network. If you cracked on and didn't buckle you were okay, but I wouldn't want to do it again. Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS. Bob Roberts. Babergh District councillor Ganges, Derek Davis, said: From my own personal perspective I have seen how closely our officers and our planning team have worked with the owners of the site and I can imagine that once the lockdown is over and the guys get started, progress will be made very quickly. Indeed, I have never met a shipmate would ever claim otherwise. Down the road we proudly thundered, the first time any of us had seen the outside words since the day of our arrival. . Steve Tarr. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. Heard so much about HMS Ganges though and it sounded very good for developing 'real sailors ' but as much as I hate to admit it I suspect it would have been too much for me . The Duke of Edinburgh visiting HMS Ganges in June 1973 Picture: ARCHANT (Image: Archant). Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. The rest of the class were not pleased to suffer because of one boys stupidity and sometimes made a cruel point of letting the culprit know. Used to have chats with old Tick-Tock and RPO Salmon gave me my 1 postal order when the max was really ten bob. As a subscriber, you are shown 80% less display advertising when reading our articles. I just got on with it. HMS Ganges as a training ship in the 1900s, HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley, The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training, The sailors in training doing exercises outside the gym, The honours board from the HMS Ganges, showing the victories of all the Royal Navy ships bearing the name. HMS GANGES 6th May 2009 - YouTube. From the top of the mast, its a long way to come ! attempted to climb to the top of the mast, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Aboriginal spears taken in 1770 to return to Sydney, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart. CHARGE CHIEF PETTY OFFICER (WEA) Served from 1974 - 1997 Served in HMS Ganges. CPO (OPS) (EW) Served from 1966 - 1991 Served in HMS Ganges. It closed in 1998 or something. BBC Blue Peter presenter John Noakes attempted to climb to the top of the mast. The greatest fear was of messing up, this meant the whole class was punished. Two other ratings are recorded as 'drowning' whilst on the books of HMS Ganges and both were in 1944. Probably running away was the worse decision, they were always caught and returned to the camp. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). Every letter, every strip of tape had to be in a perfect line. He was the officer that tested us when we endeavoured to qualify with a bosuns pipe. Sailors' uniforms were a familiar sight in our area until HMS Ganges closed in June 1976. in the RN with the nickname Doc. During Ganges's time in Cornwall allegations of harsh and brutal treatment were reported to the Admiralty.One wardroom steward shot himself over the matter, and the reports aroused indignation in the local community. Sad to see such an establishment close as it was so full of history and meant so much to so many. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). It used to be a training camp for the Navy until 1976, and in later years it was a police training school. HMS Ganges moved moorings from Harwich to Shotley. On his 15th Birthday he was sent, with 2000 other boys, to the notorious HMS Ganges training establishment at Shotley Point where a harsh regime held sway. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. I told him "I don't give a flying feck!" It was easy to spot those who had been here the longest. Many spars are believed to have come from this ship too. ( Royal Naval Detention Quarters RNDQs Portsmouth), Listen to No Flowers for Geordie on SoundCloud. At the tip of the Shotley peninsular sits a cluster of abandoned buildings that were once home to hundreds of young lads right at the start of their lives at sea. Coronation Day of George VI. AboutPressCopyrightContact. 1937. Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. HMS Ganges. (LogOut/ the reason i remember the date is that it was my 15th birthday, We got shipped out to Suez in October 1956 cutting short our training by a couple of months. When I say there was sexual abuse Im speaking from personal experience. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can Yes, I got it wrong! Anniversary Toast - HMS RALEIGH 25th Oct 2009, Telegraph: "Captain Peter Grindal Obituary", Future Ford vehicles could repossess themselves, 10 myths told by Covid 'experts' now debunked. The number of air raids at Shotley began to increase dramatically and its ratings soon had to go to the air . Were you a 'button boy'? HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships since from 1779, but in 1905 it was chosen as title for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich where about 500 boy recruits. It was named after a pre-existing training ship by the same name that was launched from Bombay and based at Shotley. HMS Ganges was a training ship and later stone frigate of the Royal Navy. Mr Davis added: They have had the last conditions, including the fire hydrants agreed. In the first week of January it was snowed even harder and it snowed until March. ", The boys climbed the mast whenever the base received high-status visitors, and as part of their training (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). www.amazon.co.uk/H-m-S-Ganges-Dozen/dp/0906418003/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1269273975&sr=1-1, www.navy-net.co.uk/Forums/viewtopic/t=134/postdays=0/postorder=asc/start=0.html, www.veterans-uk.info/vets_badge/vets_badge.htm. ", The honours board from the HMS Ganges, showing the victories of all the Royal Navy ships bearing the name (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). The Admiralty decided that the shore base should bear the name of the original training ship, HMS Ganges. GANGES was the shore training establishment for boy entrants into the Royal Navy from 1905 until 1976. Peter Ohara. Maybe we were unlucky with Instructors as one was Court Marshalled, discharged and sent to prison for so called abuse. . The mast was erected in 1907 for boy entrant training purposes using the lower foremast (steel) from HMS Cordelia (1881) with other sections from the mizzen mast of HMS Agincourt (1865). This page is dedicated to the memory of Tony whose commitment to the Royal Navy and especially HMS Ganges was unlimited. After eating I dashed down to the boat sheds to report for my test. It began snowing on Boxing Day. Roe told me "I don't like you." Ganges training establishment. Who would have believed us, this was 1955 words like pedophile and sexual abuse were unheard of. Were you at HMS Ganges? HMS Ganges organisation of meals - covering the galley in the Long Covered Way/messdeck dining, and the introduction of the CMG block /communal dining - dated 1952. c. Punishment of Juniors (U) at HMS Ganges dated 1970. d. Restrictions on the caning of boys as a punishment dated 1929-1931. As a matter of interest how many of you did your 22 and beyond not many I suspect therefore you look back with nostalgia, fcuking hated the place and made certain I never treated any of my guys the same as the youngsters were treated there. Helpful Report abuse Kindle Customer Sorting The Wheat From The Chaff Reviewed in the United States on March 28, 2014 He was sentenced at Portsmouth Crown Court. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS, Aerial artist's impression of one of the green spaces earmarked for the former HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. "The rest of the buildings, including Nelsons Hall and the swimming pool will be converted into flats, shops and a sports centre. what an incredible article, thanks for that dave, how far did you get up that mast? Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to I arrived at Ganges in the late afternoon on March 15th 1955, along with roughly a hundred other fifteen year old boys. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. Registered in England & Wales | 01676637 |. In 1907, its famous 143ft (44m)-high training . She had taken on the previous duties from the wooden ship H.M.S. I was at Ganges in 1955 and went to visit Shotley in 2005 and was surprised to see police signs near the old swimming baths. The previous evening I'd arrived at HMS Ganges training annexe, with an assortment of other would-be-sailors, and was placed in the capable hands of a spotty-faced junior instructor and a bullet-proof gunnery instructor who wore crossed guns on both lapels. We are the largest and fastest growing community of UK forces veterans on the web with over 500,000 members! HP10 9TY. You are using an out of date browser. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. MT2 Served from 1965 - 2021 Served in HMS Ganges. ', and he replied that it was the first time he had a warm bed, three hot meals a day, and a roof over his head that didn't leak. Every letter of our names had to be perfectly in line. Attempts have been made to contact developers Haylink Ltd but have been unsucessfull. Welcome to our next documentary, investigating the decaying remains and iconic abandoned swimming pool of HMS Ganges Royal Naval training school, as well as . At Gagnes they spent 12 months training, and they learned everything you need to do to run a ship. I wrote this song a long time ago. (LogOut/ Justin I saw the mast fully manned three times and it was a wonderful sight to see as it was so well choreographed and I was always amazed how the button boy could even get onto the button, when there was a breeze the mast moved a few good feet at the top of it and as I said all he had to hold onto was a knee high lighting conductor. I would imagine it will be a number of years before we see the final product but Ive seen first hand how quickly they can actually make progress once the builders get going. By creating an account you agree to us emailing you with newsletters and discounts, which you can switch off in your account at any time. This was the job of the button boy at HMS Ganges who had to shin up the last fifteen feet or so to climb on the button during ceremonial parades. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. The one chippy bugger who thought it good fun to make you spar with him in the wash room (Annexe) I met up with in the Far Flung and gave him more than he gave me. Jim Gitsham, chairman of the Shotley branch of the HMS Ganges Association, said: "Members will be delighted that he's going down. At 14 he ran away to join the Royal Navy and signed on for 12 years. There was also a degree of sexual abuse going on at Ganges, but we boys were too scared to ever complain or report such incidents. yes I was there in 92 .Essex, Nolfolk , Herts Suffolk and Cambs police all used it. A Gannett Company. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please These adverts enable local businesses to get in front of their target audience the local community. HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. Contents 1 Foundation and early history 1.1 Allegations of abuse 2 Ganges at Harwich 3 Ganges at Shotley 3.1 1906 changes 3.2 Later developments 3.3 First World War 3.4 Post war developments 3.5 Ganges in the Second World War 3.6 Postwar and closure 4 References 5 External links I was ordered to report for my test one evening after supper. "We're hoping that we can get some of the money back from him, but we don't know if that's going to be possible.". Outbreak of World War One. HMS Ganges being broken up after training was transferred to the land base at Shotley (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). The lower portion of the mast is steel, extending 18 feet (5.5 m) below ground and 30 feet (9.1 m) above ground. Initially, training continued to be carried out on the vessel, but after the completion of a shore-based facility at Shotley, the ship was sent to be broken up. Editors' Code of Practice. 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HMS Ganges was a "stone frigate" or land-based institution for the Royal Navy, and between 1905 and 1976 was one of the key training bases used to prepare sailors to defend Great Britain. The cinemas would be packed with rows of Ganges boys in uniform and the caf at the corner of St Stephen's Lane would sell them many cups of tea as they waited for their bus back to Shotley. The kindly chef asked me whether I intended to eat the mountain of food I'd heaped on my plate or climb it! He was an Electricians Mate Class 1 and served in, 12/03/35-09/01/36 HMS Ganges. "They had a hard life, but they were fed and looked after. Observer career path/ real life experience. It would not be an exaggeration to say not one of us had the slightest idea of what lay in store for the next year. In 1907, its famous training mast was erected on the parade ground. Welcome Guest. This was followed by a leap from the diving board, as high as any tree I'd ever climbed, wearing the waterlogged boiler suit and a lifejacket. Restoration of the historic HMS Ganges Mast is well under way at Barrelmans Point in Shotley. She remained in service at RNTE Shotley until October 1976. 1959 and what a bugger Ganges turned out to be. HMS Ganges was the name given to several Royal Navy ships from 1779 onwards, but in 1905 it was chosen for a new training base at Shotley Gate, near Ipswich, where about 500 boy recruits were stationed. The boy was made lower his trousers, but kept is underpants on, he was made to bend over a chair. We were ushered in as a group of naked boys and told to wash thoroughly. The 142-foot high (43 m) mast was erected in 1907. ", The sailors in training doing exercises outside the gym (Image: HMS Ganges Museum). and for those of you who served at ganges and who have't joined the association go on..nothing to lose and you'll find a lot of old shipmates there!! Some boys were home sick, some just tried to stay out of trouble, one or two ran away. inaccuracy or intrusion, then please Ronald Carr. Free (donations towards running costs are welcome) Editors' Code of Practice. The HMS Ganges site was initially opened in 1904 acted as a boys training facility for the Royal Navy. She was based alternately in Falmouth, Harwich (from 1899) and Shotley (from 1905). Ganges Tales of the T.R.O.G.s Paperback - 22 Nov. 1995 by John Douglas (Author), John Wheatley (Illustrator) 6 ratings Paperback 12.00 8 Used from 8.90 H.M.S. First Royal Navy ship to visit Eire, post independence? H.M.S. 1907. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. I wondered, sewing, perhaps! In attendance was a senior officer, medical officer and the master at arms. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For breakfast porridge was on offer, that salt-coated gruel I'd been forced to eat every morning of my schoolboy days. 1976. RO1 (T) Served from 1970 - 1975 Served in HMS Ganges. contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. Mr Youngman, who joined the navy aged 15 in 1965, said he had previously climbed up to the top of the mast but "couldn't wait to get back down". contact IPSO here, 2001-2023. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. contact the editor here. Royal Navy 238217 Ordinary Seaman HMS Niobe . LEADING SEAMAN Served from 1961 - 1970 Served in HMS Ganges. Tony Hayden. . For more information, please see our Privacy Policy, Please enter a password with 6 characters or more. last entry 16.30 We are also please to welcome visitors at any other time by prior appointment - please telephone 01473 788315 or 01473 788723 to arrange this. Martin Foster, 54, of Haig Road, Uxbridge, had already admitted two charges of fraud by abuse of position. There were stories of many similar violations but none ever reported. joined in '63 Dreadnought in the Annexe and Duncan in main camp, Went swimming at Vincent before colling-grad got its pool, and sailing if my memory is not totally shot, I sometimes considered climbing to the top of the mast a tossing myself off. Offenders, known in the Navy as "defaulters", were mustered every morning and went before the Captain for a formal hearing, where they could be "awarded" up to 12 "cuts" -- very hard strokes of Standing at 143ft, the mast is made up of three main parts; the main 75ft mast came from HMS Cordelia, a steam corvette built in Portsmouth, the top mast of 47.5 ft wooden ruffle box from HMS Agincourt, which was renamed HMS Boscawen, and then Ganges II. I joined Ganges 30th June 1955 also as a boy telegraphist. Picture: SARAH LUCY BROWN, Artist's impression showing the view across a residential street at the redeveloped HMS Ganges site in Shotley Gate. She was established as a boys' training establishment in 1865, and was based aboard a number of hulks before moving ashore. A history of the Royal Navy Training Establishment HMS Ganges. the top rung of a six foot ladder is about my limit! The latest development means that construction work could start immediately, however, due to the coronavirus outbreak, progress has been delayed. I knew that once the weather was respectable, when it was no longer dangerous, my skinny little skeleton would be transported, step by trembling step, up that perilous rigging. I was sent to the training Ship HMS Ganges a cruel harsh 12 months lay ahead of me and thousands of other boys. The Royal Navy training mast in Shotley Gate, pictured in 1936, was erected in 1907, A photograph of the base taken sometime in the 1950s (left), with recruits on the mast in 1937, with one recruit just about visible near the very top, John Youngman said his training at the site stood him in good stead for the rest of his life, Warning: Third party content may contain adverts, A pupil band from The Royal Hospital School performed at the event, It is expected to take at least a year to restore the mast at the tip of the Shotley peninsula, across the water from Felixstowe and Harwich. According to the HMS Ganges Museum, her timbers were used to make objects including a grand staircase on an estate, and a cocktail bar in a small hotel, both in Devon. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. The white letters would then be transformed, by our nimble fingers, into red with silk thread using the chain stitch. Our abuse contact API returns data containing information belonging to the abuse contact of every IP address on the Internet. Picture: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS (Image: CLAGUE ARCHITECTS). Newsquest Media Group Ltd, Loudwater Mill, Station Road, High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire. St George IOM Boys training 3/5/45 Christmas leave 45 took all kit and returned to Ipswich station, then by the ubiquitous 3 ton Bedford to Shotley where we reopened HMS Ganges as a boys establishment. The inquiry was carried out by Hampshire Police after debit card transactions of 4,200 and cash machine withdrawals totalling 74,000 were made from the association's bank accounts between August 2010 and June 2012. Commander was Trick and a good egg. Early in 1940 Admiralty decided to close Ganges as a Boys Training Establishment and in April it became a Hostilities Only Training Establishment. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. 11.00 to 17.00 Saturdays, Sundays and Bank Holidays between Easter and the end of October. Life on the ship was extremely hard, with a memorial in Mylor, Cornwall, recording the names of 53 people who died while training on it between 1866 and 1899. Welcome to Forces Reunited the place where you can find information and friends from HMS Ganges. They were both Ordinary Seamen, one aged 17 and the other aged 18. The mast has been a local landmark since it was erected a century ago this year at the end of the Shotley peninsular. Captain Tremlett, the Senior Officer of training ships, was ordered to investigate the situation and reported that Commander Stevens 'had given punishments . HMS Ganges - part of front gate Having completed the New Entry training over at the Annex (I think it took six weeks), we then marched over to Drake 39 mess over in the Main Establishment. contact the editor here. Engineer commander had been on Amethyst up the Yangtse and was quite sympathetic when he was OOD. Reaching high into the sunlit sky stood the mast; its yardarms spread wide like a giant crucifix. Data returned from the Piano 'meterActive/meterExpired' callback event. There's something to be said for finding how finding out how good you are at living with other people, and finding respect for yourself. My instructors were Nobby Clarke and Ted Roe. The money belonged to the HMS Ganges Association for people who served at the former naval training base at Shotley Gate near Ipswich, Suffolk. Violations but none ever reported week of January it was easy to spot those who had been Amethyst. 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